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- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 28 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1166
-
- Today's Topics:
- anyone know anything about hallicrafters
- ARRL to change "Silent Keys" label in QST?
- Call Sign ID (2 msgs)
- Converting Lat/Lon to Int. Locator Coordinates
- HELP HAM RADIO AND MORE GET ONTO SHORTWAVE
- HOW TO LEARN CW???
- JOTA interference
- PGP-Signatur in PACKET RADIO
- Question: Internet/Ham
- Subject: Keeping in touch by Ham radio: round the world flight
- TUTORIAL: dB & dBm
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 17:52:59 EST
- From: deef@ace.com (Deef)
- Subject: anyone know anything about hallicrafters
-
- M{>{vancleef@netcom.com}
-
- M{>In article <Cxsu2o.31B@rahul.net> Mike Lyon <mlyon@rahul.net> writes:
- M{>>
- M{>>i recently picked up a old hallicrafters shortwave reciever. i would like
- M{>>to see if i can get some schematics,information or anything on it. on the
- M{>>tune dial it says "Skyrider jr." and i can barely make out the model no.
- M{>>it says model "h" in a white circle and after that it says either one of
- M{>>these, i can't tell it's a little rusty, but it's either a s-416,
- M{>>s-116,s-110, s-410. it's about a foot long and about 9 inches tall and
- M{>>about 9 inches wide. and also does hallicrafters still exist? if it does
- M{>>could anyone give me the any information on how to contact them.
- M{>>
- M{>"Skyrider Jr." was only used on model S-41. This was essentially an
- M{>Ecophone EC-1A, built immediately after WWII, and replaced by the S-38.
- M{>It is an AC-DC set.
-
- M{>Hallicrafters vanished about fifteen years ago.
-
- M{>--
- M{>===================================================================
- M{>Hank van Cleef The Union Institute History of Science
- M{> E-mail vancleef@netcom.com or vancleef@tmn.com
- M{>===================================================================
-
- I wanted to add that Mike want wish to check with :
- Antique Wireless Association (which publishes a bulletin)
- Holcomb NY 14469
-
- and he could check for related ads or post in:
- Amateur Radio Trader (listed price: $2.95/issue, about 126 pages)
- PO Box 3729
- Crossville TN 38557
-
- Membership in the AWA is not expensive, and members get to place free
- ads. Lots of good info and ads in their Bulletin. He might want to
- write to Bruce Kelley, on Main St. in Holcomb.
-
- --Deef (deef@ace.com) N1JAL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 17:53:16 EST
- From: deef@ace.com (Deef)
- Subject: ARRL to change "Silent Keys" label in QST?
-
- M{>{hutzley@ranger.enet.dec.com}
-
-
- M{>> Maybe "Final QRT" would be a suitable choice.
- M{>>
-
- M{> I Actually think that would be a good title for ALL
- M{> CLASSES of operators. But then on the other hand, the PTT
- M{> button on a mike is sometimes refered to as 'A KEY!'
-
- M{> Steve/N1TEC
-
- Come to think of it... if you had an external modulator, you might very
- well be using the old key for a PTT button!
- --Deef (deef@ace.com)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Oct 94 18:13:00 GMT
- From: jonep@dg13.cec.BE (JONES Peter)
- Subject: Call Sign ID
-
- In article <38hqas$6rt@detroit.freenet.org>, ad779@detroit.freenet.org (John
- Hughes) writes...
- >
- >Is it appropriate or not to state a call with a double letter (i.e.,
- xy8ppq)
- as xy8 double pq? An older Ham indicated this was not proper. Seems minor,
- with all the imaginative phonetics heard and people who say zed for the z in
- thei
- >in their calls...which is supposed to be some fancy british pronunciation?
- >What does the group think?
-
- I think that to refer to a British pronunciation as "fancy" is very
- parochial. The Zed pronuncation is the way the British pronounce it, and
- since British English pre-dates the American variety by several hundred
- years, I suggest that if anybody is being fancy, it is the Americans with
- Zee!
-
- Pete Jones, ON9CUK
- pjones@icom.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 14:41:08 +0000
- From: ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk (Iain Philipps)
- Subject: Call Sign ID
-
- In article <38hqas$6rt@detroit.freenet.org>
- ad779@detroit.freenet.org "John Hughes" writes:
-
- > Is it appropriate or not to state a call with a double letter (i.e., xy8ppq) as
- > xy8 double pq? An older Ham indicated this was not proper. Seems minor, with
-
- Whether it's "proper" or not, I really couldn't say. But in my opinion it can
- (does) cause confusion, particularly when folks aren't expecting it :-)
-
- > all the imaginative phonetics heard and people who say zed for the z in thei
- > in their calls...which is supposed to be some fancy british pronunciation?
- > What does the group think?
-
- Hmm ... to 'Zee' or not to 'Zee' ...
-
- Where did you get the idea that 'Zed' is '... some fancy british
- pronunciation'?
-
- John, I don't know what your ethnic origins are, and what linguistic rules
- you may or may not apply when deciding which would be correct. Unless I'm
- mistaken (and I'm sure that there are plenty of folks who will be ready to
- correct me if that is the case) American English is considerably predated
- by the version of the dialect spoken in England. If the inhabitants of the
- United States have chosen to corrupt the English language, then so be it.
-
- Oh - by the way - just how long, exactly, have you been a bigot?
-
-
- --
- Iain Philipps
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 15:28:48 GMT
- From: tom@kontron.de (Thomas de Lellis)
- Subject: Converting Lat/Lon to Int. Locator Coordinates
-
- Hello!
-
- Does anyone out there have an algorithm for converting latitude-longitude
- coordinates to international locator coordinates?
-
- Also, I seem to remember seeing somewhere that there is more than one
- locator scheme (i.e. ARRL vs. what is used in Europe, etc.) What
- are the differences?
-
- 73
- --
- ________________
- Thomas de Lellis
- DL5MGZ - KN6EI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:06:02 GMT
- From: scotte@ccs.neu.edu (Scott Ehrlich)
- Subject: HELP HAM RADIO AND MORE GET ONTO SHORTWAVE
-
- The following was posted on Genie. NOTE: Corrections will follow the
- forward.
- - - - - - - -
- Radio & Electronics RT
- Category 4, Topic 5
- Message 95 Wed Oct 19, 1994
- BIRDWATCHER [Gary, MI] at 21:28 EDT
-
- Ever want to program a major shortwave station? Pick the kind of shows YOU
- want to hear?
-
- Well here is your chance!
-
-
-
- I have been asked by Adam Locke of WWCR to post the following:
-
-
- To all WWCR Listeners:
-
- This is your chance to let us know what you want to have more of. For
- months we have been doing country music to the world in the afternoons. Do
- you want this to continue, or would you like to have more talk programming
- during the day? Any favorite talk shows? Other ideas? Mail us a post card
- with the top five shows youwould like to hear during the day (no phone calls
- please).
-
- EMAIL US at: NMKS01@PRODIGY.COM
-
- Or write:
-
- WWCR AFTERNOON PROGRAMMING SURVEY
- WWCR AVENUE
- Nashville TN 37218
-
-
-
-
- Do it TODAY!!
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Note: Please spread the word. Can someone post this on rec.video.shortwave
- and FIDO SW ECHO?
-
- I can not access these conferences. Just repost the message.
-
- I have already said what I would like. Also WWCR will be running their
- afternoon programming on a new lower frequency, so we can all HEAR it during
- the afternoon hours.
-
-
- -------
-
- Corrections: E-Mail address is NMKS01A@prodigy.com
- Street address is 1300 WWCR Avenue.
- Program director is Adam Lock (no "e" at the end).
-
- --
- < ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- < "Big Steve" Coletti
- < Shortwave Listener, Broadcaster, Computer Consultant
- < and all around nice guy
- < Internet: bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org ==== S.COLETTI2@genie.geis.com
- < UUCP: steve.cole@islenet.com ==== steveny@lopez.marquette.mi.us
- < Fidonet: 1:278/307 US Mail: P.O. Box 396, New York, NY 10002
- < Voice: +1 212 995-2637
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- ======================================================================
-
- Any radio station can air the show at absolutely no charge, no contract.
- Call KFNN, 1510am, for clock information and other details at 602-241-1510.
-
- To get the show aired in your city, have your fellow hams call a local
- small talk station and tell the program director to air the show.
-
- Sending a few FAX's helps, too.
-
-
- Satellite info is: The show can be heard via satellite on Spacenet 3,
- Transponder 9, 6.8 audio
-
-
- Let's keep Ham Radio and More alive!
-
- Thanks!
-
-
- ------------------------------------
- Scott Ehrlich Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z E-mail: wy1z@neu.edu
- Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
- Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
- Ham Radio and More: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc/ham-more/ham-more.html
-
- --
- Scott Ehrlich Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z E-mail: wy1z@neu.edu
- Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
- Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
- Ham Radio and More: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc/ham-more/ham-more.html
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 11:40:01 -0400
- From: joen9yjz@aol.com (Joe N9YJZ)
- Subject: HOW TO LEARN CW???
-
- Well, as of now, im a tech+ with the ability to copy 13 wpm...but
- have never gotten around to take the test. I think that a great combo for
- learning the code is, yes, listen to the tapes...(the best one is the
- Gordon West tapes.) He makes learning the code fun, and basic. Well, after
- listening to these once (so as not to memorize them) i spent some time
- just copying coversations back and forth on HF. Good luck to ya'!!
-
- Joe N9YJZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:49:14 GMT
- From: SPIKE@EESTAFF.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (ED SPIKE (E&CE Dept. RmE2-3357))
- Subject: JOTA interference
-
- This is one reason we stayed on 2m and 70 cm.
-
- We demonstrated by listening only on 20 m.
-
- There were many on the five 2m and two 70 cm repeaters we used.
-
- Also we demonstrated simplex with the groups within the same city.
-
- Also the scouts/cubs were on packet.
-
- At the University of WAterloo the scouts/cubs were shown around the antenna
- farm and the experimental antenna range.
-
- We had a great time and avoided all the "bitching" from the "rock minded".
-
-
- 73, de EDward Spike spike@eestaff.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
- *
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- * Canada, N2L3G1. (519)888-4567, X-3716, fax:(519)888-6197
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:12:44 -0400
- From: sjking@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Steven J. King)
- Subject: PGP-Signatur in PACKET RADIO
-
- Jeff Racz (jeffr@sa-htn.valmet.com) wrote:
- > bafpa@infodude.com wrote:
-
- > : IT>A ham is only allowed to use "open speech". But signing a message
- > : IT>with the program PGP might be ok.
-
- > You should refer to the section of the rules prohibiting amateurs from using
- > codes and cyphers in communicating. I think that they pretty explicitly
- > exclude the use of PGP in amateur radio.
-
- That is what I was wondering myself when I started reading this
- thread. Would using PGP on packet messages be illegal under the "no
- cypher" rule even if the callsigns in the packet header are easily
- decodable? I would think so, eh?
-
-
- --
- Steven King SJKing@Freenet.FSU.EDU | "FREEZE, HAIR-BOY!"
- ICBM: 29N 41' 26" / 82W 21' 17" |
- Pkt: KC6WCH @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:55:16 GMT
- From: robertn@hoodriver.esd.sgi.com (Robert Novak)
- Subject: Question: Internet/Ham
-
- I've got a question for all you Hammys out there.
-
- My parents are sailing to Mexico in January and I'd like to stay in contact
- with them via internet.
-
- My father has has ham gear aboard. Can he subscribe to a service and
- have access to internet with the HAM radio?
-
- If so, who do I contact to set it up and what special gear will he need
- on his end.
-
- Thanks in advance
-
- rob novak
-
-
-
-
- -- Robert Novak / Interactive Systems Division / (415)-390-2603
- -- robertn@sgi.com
- --
- --- "Can I pour you a draft, Mr. Peterson?"
- --- "A little early, isn't it Woody?"
- --- "For a beer?"
- --- "No, for stupid questions."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Oct 94 16:29:00 GMT
- From: pve@dg13.cec.BE (VEKINIS Peter)
- Subject: Subject: Keeping in touch by Ham radio: round the world flight
-
- Possible answers:
-
- By international regulations, radio communications identification has to
- follow country of registry. This applies to ships, planes etc. Thus if a
- plane is registered in the US, and has a NXXXX number (the N, like ham
- callsigns follows the US - ever see the tail of a commercial plane?) he must
- have a FCC amateur radio station license.
- The FCC forbids ham radio operation in planes that are in the air, or about
- to take off. Thats is, commercial planes. However in a private plane,
- operation permission remains with the pilot (just like boats). Equipment
- must be separate from aviation equipment (just like boats).
-
- Your friend would have to use his US call anywhere, suffixed by /AM
- (Aeronautical Mobile) until the point where he lands. If he lands on a
- country not under FCC jurisdiction, he then must have the permission of the
- host country (exception: Canada it is automatic) or a reciprocal agreement
- with that country. Since he is not going to land, this isnt necessary.
- Depending where he is, ITU region 1, 2 or 3 he will be able to transmit in
- different frequencies. So if he is flying over Europe, 40 meter band is from
- 7.000 to 7.100, so he would have to adapt his frequencies accordingly.
- Finally, there is an Air Traffic Control Net every day, contolled by W1BFA,
- on 14.277, run by Ernie in Maine. It starts at 6am Eastern and beams north
- east. Ernie can supply weather reports and air conditions 24 hours a day
- through the network of nets he associated with. He is linked to S&R teams
- over the US and Atlantic.
- Just ensure your friend announes the info about his trip well in advance.
- Peter, KC1QF
- European Commission
- Brussels
-
- pve@dg13.cec.be
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 17:52:50 EST
- From: deef@ace.com (Deef)
- Subject: TUTORIAL: dB & dBm
-
- M{>{defranco@fermi.cs.rl.af.mil}
-
- M{>Great introduction - well done, except for one minor nit.
- M{>A decibel is always relative. As you clearly demonstrate,
- M{>the decibel is the log of a ratio of two quantities. As such,
- M{>the resulting number is always relative. By fixing one of
- M{>the quantities, say as one milliwatt, you simply define one
- M{>of the two. That doesn't make dBm an absolute quantity.
- M{>Othewise, great.
-
- I didn't catch the previous thread, but 0 dBm = 1 mW, and in the audio
- world, that generally means 0.775 V into 600 ohms.
- Other references used are 0 dBV= 1 volt (not a power measurement, but
- voltage), 0dBu=.775V (also not a power measurement), 0dBf= 1 femtowatt
- (which was brought in to clarify receiver sensitivity specs, after the
- industry starting playing around with numbers).
-
- Indeed, the dB represents a ratio, and is meaningless without a
- reference value for 0dB, whether it's a certain power level or whatever.
- The dB is just a handy way to think about how much more or less of that
- reference you are measuring. I hope this helps.
-
- --Deef (deef@ace.com)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:06:51 GMT
- From: myers@sunspot.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers)
-
- References<CyAL1u.3Jy@wang.com> <wyn.206.2EAEAF14@ornl.gov>, <CyC92u.KFE@news.Hawaii.Edu>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO , packet BBS that lists posts by "topic"?
-
- In article <CyC92u.KFE@news.Hawaii.Edu> jeffrey@math.hawaii.edu writes:
- >wyn@ornl.gov (C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX) writes:
- >
- >> No wonder the FCC despairs over the Ham bands.
- >
- >They do? I've always heard that the FCC has nothing but praise
- >for amateurs.
-
- Hmmm... the Washington staffer I spoke to a while ago seemed to be
- pretty amused by the activities of amateurs. By the way, this staffer
- is also an active amateur. Clay is maybe editorializing a little bit,
- but I think he's mostly correct this time.
-
- --
- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are *
- * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
- * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
- * "Antenna waves be burnin' up my radio" -- ZZ Top *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 23:26:51 GMT
- From: little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little)
-
- References<Cy8J1v.3wA@wang.com> <1994Oct26.114636.5713@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CyCEKB.7Hq@wang.com>
- Reply-To: little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little)
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
-
- In article <CyCEKB.7Hq@wang.com>, dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
-
- |>Again, this discussion is not about speech content, but one-way
- |>communications.
-
- Good, I'm glad you see our point then. The communication is two-way. I
- send a packet to the PBBS and it sends me an acknowledgement. What is
- one-way about that? The content may be construed as one-way, but the
- communication is definitely two-way. That is unless you set up your
- beacon text to be a 10 line cookie recipe. ;-)
-
- And to whomever it was (was it you Dave?) that made the comments about
- folks being too cheap to purchase Internet access or whatever, that is
- really a stretch. That is like saying we should eliminate the phone
- bands because people are too cheap to make long distance calls.
-
- 73,
- Todd
- N9MWB
-
- ------------------------------
-
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